IRC log started Sun May 28 00:00:01 2000 [msg(TUNES)] permlog 2000.0528 12:10am geez... what? that fellow in #dolphin? yes it's pointless to reason with him now let him think he's right now and then later he will return in a more receptive state of mind, if at all well, right now, dun care, am reading about predicate dispatching :) oh yeah it's an interesting idea, but in the end i just decided to implement it as a layer over base-level semantics well, it is not necessarily less basic than slate's current single dispatch model :) though perhaps a bit more complicated orthogonal persistence sounds so stupid i'd imagine the concept is low-quality oh, man... that is funny :) yeah that's a classic quote qhy the hell does he figure that? s/qhy/why/ big words... that's it? * eihrul/#tunes thinks we could compile a Tunes humour page... heh well if i get that web db thing delivered 12:30am have you mentioned smalltalk or common lisp yet to this fellow? not yet 12:40am i think he's giving in to tunes :) slowly * water/#tunes follows along in the logs you haven't mentioned the fact that orthogonal persistence should enable all computations to be reversible, so that bug-crashes don't recur when you restart maybe that's not very relevant, though, but you should mention it if it comes up well, only finitely reversible :) bah finiteness is assumed as a matter of course well, bad choice of words... not necessarily reversible to the extent of all computation that has happened this guy doesn't know forth? because memory could be more finite than time :) 12:50am heh you're on the verge of blowing his mind away well, i need to get a little reading done before i crash gnite -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (The Tao went that-a-way!) night 01:00am -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- dalvarez [dalvarez@tristan.sc.cs.tu-bs.de] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff dalvarez: #TUNES (dalvarez) -:- NataLieRC [asdasd@node-64-248-41-156.dslspeed.zyan.com] has joined #tunes -:- NataLieRC [asdasd@node-64-248-41-156.dslspeed.zyan.com] has left #tunes [] -:- dalvarez [dalvarez@tristan.sc.cs.tu-bs.de] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff coreyBUSY: #TUNES (Ping timeout for coreyBUSY[net255ip95.parklink.com]) -:- SignOff dalvarez: #TUNES (dalvarez) -:- hcf [nef@207-172-225-186.s186.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes hohum 08:00am -:- water [water@tnt-10-119.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff abi: #TUNES (dying by hcf's request) -:- abi [nef@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes mornin water good morning 08:20am -:- coreyr [coreyr@net255ip95.parklink.com] has joined #tunes -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp120.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes eihrul! yes? just saying hi got the urge to feign excitement hm ? * water/#tunes ponders er... * water/#tunes is pondering 09:20am about? 09:30am inheritance, structural reification, and behavioral reification using graph formalisms the core spec is going to be ridiculously simple.... most of the language will be in interfacing and libraries of intuitively-useful objects to be supported by the compiler well, lots of intuitively-useful objects need to be used to construct the compiler as well :) sure i'm just saying that whatever "ordinary" features of programming languages you include with the compiler will not be part of the core spec as such well, sure :) so, any thoughts yet on a more self-like object model? i still have an issue or two to resolve before i publish water: great. yeah that's closely related to what i'm considering 10:50am although i still want to keep the function-like base at the bottom of course so that your "self-like" objects idea remains just a kind of mixin function how to formalize that naturally is what i'm considering -:- SignOff abi: #TUNES (Excess Flood) -:- abi [nef@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes * eihrul/#tunes laughs. excess flood? water: 'abi: scan for 33 a' theres no flood prevention why would "33 a" cause problems? she returns lots of hits as fast as she can too bad 33 can be any large maxhitcount, a can be any common pattern oh that's right, 33 is maxhitcount 11:00am -:- SignOff I440r: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- I440r [mark4@purplecoder.com] has joined #tunes -:- FineWitMe [asdasd@node-64-248-41-202.dslspeed.zyan.com] has joined #tunes hi -:- FineWitMe [asdasd@node-64-248-41-202.dslspeed.zyan.com] has left #tunes [] i guess its fine wit him heh 11:40am -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[207-172-225-186.s186.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com]) eihrul: reading up on graph rewrite -:- hcf [nef@207-172-225-31.s31.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff I440r: #TUNES (Read error to I440r[purplecoder.com]: EOF from client) 11:50am bbl ppl :) -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (The Tao went that-a-way!) 12:50pm -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- Fare [rideaufr@esmeralda.enst.fr] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- SignOff raja: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- raja [raja@Sprint424.tbaytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff thomas: #TUNES (Read error to thomas[193.217.63.152]: EOF from client) -:- raja [raja@Sprint424.tbaytel.net] has left #tunes [] hey fare 03:20pm -:- hcf [nef@207-172-225-24.s24.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes -:- rares [rares@wtrb-sh4-port194.snet.net] has joined #tunes abi Xerox? rares: i haven't a clue abi, PARC? rares: i don't know abi: oi? oi is open implementation, see http://www.parc.xerox.com/spl/projects/oi/ http://progwww.vub.ac.be/research/open-design-reflect.html http://progwww.vub.ac.be/prog/pools/reflection/Reflection.html hcf where's the stuff water was reading about the Altair and all of Xerox's predictions and inventions oh uhm abi: gui galery? i haven't a clue, hcf abi: gui gallery? gui gallery is at http://www.pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/ linked to from the xerox section i think 04:10pm -:- NataLieR [asdasd@node-64-248-41-156.dslspeed.zyan.com] has joined #tunes hello -:- NataLieR [asdasd@node-64-248-41-156.dslspeed.zyan.com] has left #tunes [] 04:40pm -:- Kyle_L [kyle@cr168790-a.nmkt1.on.wave.home.com] has joined #tunes hello hi who are you? do you have questions on Tunes? i'm sometimes here sometimes not I've known about tunes for awhile just lurking 04:50pm I was here looking for water. I am mostly a lurker. nice meetin' ya Kyle_L: water is at party, will bbl later. thanks -:- SignOff Kyle_L: #TUNES (Leaving) 05:00pm -:- rares [rares@wtrb-sh4-port194.snet.net] has left #tunes [] -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp120.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp120.lvdi.net] has left #tunes [] -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp120.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- Bella [nidiiii@spc-isp-mtl-58-10-143.sprint.ca] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff Bella: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- hcf_ [nef@207-172-225-52.s52.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Read error to hcf[207-172-225-24.s24.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com]: Connection reset by peer) -:- I440r [mark4@purplecoder.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff Fare: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Fare[esmeralda.enst.fr]) -:- NetSplit: varley.openprojects.net split from irc.linux.com [07:40pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [varley.openprojects.net] -:- Netjoined: varley.openprojects.net irc.linux.com -:- abi [nef@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- hcf_ [nef@207-172-225-52.s52.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes -:- NetSplit: sterling.openprojects.net split from irc.linux.com [07:41pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [sterling.openprojects.net] -:- Netjoined: sterling.openprojects.net irc.linux.com -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp120.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- I440r [mark4@purplecoder.com] has joined #tunes -:- Fare [rideaufr@esmeralda.enst.fr] has joined #tunes -:- hcf_ is now known as hcf -:- Kyle_L [kyle@cr168790-a.nmkt1.on.wave.home.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff I440r: #TUNES ([x]chat) -:- I440r [mark4@purplecoder.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff Kyle_L: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- Tril [dem@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- mode/#tunes [+o Tril] by ChanServ Tril: hey tril: what brings u? hcf: Oh, I heard some people wanted me back in here :) coreyr: hello we wanted for months i'm basically done with school for this quarter so youll be here more often? sure y not -:- SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Read error to Tril[bespin.dhs.org]: EOF from client) 10:00pm -:- Tril [dem@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- mode/#tunes [+o Tril] by ChanServ -:- SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Read error to Tril[bespin.dhs.org]: EOF from client) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[207-172-225-52.s52.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com]) -:- hcf [nef@207-172-225-177.s177.tnt1.pld.me.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #tunes [msg(TUNES)] newlog 2000.0529 IRC log ended Mon May 29 00:00:01 2000