IRC log started Fri Jul 23 00:00:00 1999 [msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0723 -:- magicstuf [5jis@reggae-08-43.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #Tunes -:- magicstuf [5jis@reggae-08-43.nv.iinet.net.au] has left #Tunes [] -:- switchcat [central@usr59-dialup156.mix2.Boston.cw.net] has joined #tunes is there a FAQ? -:- Kaufmann [Kaufmann@200.224.105.204] has joined #tunes Shalom! ...anyone alive ? bi er no 01:00am hello kewl 01:10am -:- SignOff Kaufmann: #TUNES ("Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." - Albert Einstein.) -:- Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: For more information about BitchX type /about -:- Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES (from bear.openprojects.net) -:- Your host is bear.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) (from bear.openprojects.net) -:- This server was cobbled together Wed Apr 28 1999 at 12 02:19 EDT(from bear.openprojects.net) -:- bear.openprojects.net u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) dioswkfcg biklmnopstv -:- [local users on irc(23)] 7% -:- [global users on irc(143)] 43% -:- [invisible users on irc(187)] 57% -:- [ircops on irc(16)] 5% -:- [total users on irc(330)] -:- [unknown connections(0)] -:- [total servers on irc(30)] (avg. 11 users per server) -:- [total channels created(105)] (avg. 3 users per channel) !bear.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 44 (43 clients) !bear.openprojects.net Welcome to Open Projects! You are on 3 ca 1(2) ft 14(14) tr. -:- Mode change [+f] for user TUNES -:- Mode change [+iws] for user TUNES -:- JOIN activated by "TUNES #tunes tunes@bespin.dhs.org " -:- TUNES [tunes@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- Topic for #TUNES: Free Reflective Computing System || Geek Chicks -:- topic set by hcf [Thu Jul 22 22:56:16 1999] -:- [Users(#Tunes:9)] [ TUNES ] [ BlackPhoen] [ eihrul ] [@Tril ] [ Fare ] [ Mr_Wrong ] [ abi ] [ Plundis ] [ Crimson ] -:- Channel #Tunes was created at Sun Feb 28 08:48:06 1999 -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Join to #tunes was synced in 7.296 secs!! -:- Mode change [-s] for user TUNES -:- SignOff BlackPhoenix: #TUNES (Read error to BlackPhoenix[adm.univd.kharkov.ua]: EOF from client) -:- BlackPhoenix [black-phoe@adm.univd.kharkov.ua] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff BlackPhoenix: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- is [ejb@tart.brum2600.org] has joined #tunes -:- is is now known as } -:- } is now known as is -:- s_r [sr@phila-dialup007.nni.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff s_r: #TUNES (Ping timeout for s_r[phila-dialup007.nni.com]) -:- s_r [sr@phila-dialup185.nni.com] has joined #tunes -:- smkl [sami@MCLIV.rdyn.saunalahti.fi] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff smkl: #TUNES (Ping timeout for smkl[MCLIV.rdyn.saunalahti.fi]) -:- smkl_ [sami@MCLIV.rdyn.saunalahti.fi] has joined #tunes -:- smkl_ is now known as smkl hey smkl did you get disconnected? hello s_r i pinged out from openprojects does your ISP ever disconnect you? it frequently disconnects me very rarely so, are you working on some kind of OS? nope i'm more interested about programming languages hmm "interested in" hmm Finland must be a nice place in which to live 09:10am -:- SignOff s_r: #TUNES (Read error to s_r[phila-dialup185.nni.com]: No route to host) -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES (Ping timeout for eihrul[usr5-ppp188.lvdi.net]) -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp164.lvdi.net] has joined #Tunes -:- s_r [sr@phila-dialup164.nni.com] has joined #tunes -:- ElGato [dave@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff ElGato: #TUNES (changing servers) -:- ElGato [dave@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes could someone help me out with exception handling? what's your question? well there's an exception, (number 7) that handles the FPU. But it has two functions, one when there is no FPU available for numerics and one (if the right flag is set) that happens right after a task switch how do i know what tripped it? i don't know :/ hmmm i think i might know 09:40am you're adding FPU support to retro? yeah k i know now 09:50am -:- SignOff s_r: #TUNES (Ping timeout for s_r[phila-dialup164.nni.com]) * ElGato/#tunes is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] * ElGato/#tunes is back from the dead. 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Gakuk! not much and u tcn! * Fare/#Tunes is back from St Malo & Grenoble hey fare, I just merged retro v9 into CVS I'm working on my OS cause it's too muggy out to do anythign else -:- drmental [drmental@208.25.56.71] has left #tunes [] muggy? core just updated his cvs, too 03:30pm pyro: what's up? what's new in retro? ide, vga you have much experience w/ video cards? -:- s_r [sr@phila-dialup087.nni.com] has joined #tunes >>> pyro [tcn@cci-209150250083.clarityconnect.net] requested PING 932769990 803665 from #tunes 03:40pm >>> s_r [sr@phila-dialup087.nni.com] requested unknown ctcp PONG from #tunes >>> s_r [sr@phila-dialup087.nni.com] requested PING 932770257 from #tunes [pyro PING reply]: 57 secs what!!? .57? 0.57 haahaha 3 sin pi? 1+2? 3 3+4*12? 51 .33322345123452435+.1341234571248597? 0.467346908359 lim x->0 2x+3? c'mon abi that's easy! ping? pong! ping? pong! ping? pong! s_r? s_r is a windows luser ping? pong! 03:50pm hey abi and I are playing ping-pong well you won't be able to play with abi anymore when you get /kicked * Fare/#Tunes is back I was just gonna ask where ya went -:- eStormy [stormy@rain.futuresouth.com] has joined #Tunes hey Stormy hi * Fare/#Tunes went 61453 what's that, postal? -:- SignOff binEng: #TUNES ( <k!14>) so fare, have you looked at any of these distributed fs's that use public-keys? 04:00pm abi: pyro is a flamer ...but pyro is tcn... >>> pyro [tcn@cci-209150250083.clarityconnect.net] requested PING 932771813 361573 from #tunes 04:10pm -:- SignOff smkl: #TUNES (sleeping ...) why isnt anyone talking? I dunno I was trying to talk to fare about sfs abi: sfs? rumour has it sfs is a global decentralized secure fs at http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/papers/sfs:mazieres-ms.ps.gz (watch http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/, see also 'mazieres') or see 'sfs more' note the 'watch ...' you think there's more coming? hopefully oh * hcf/#tunes misread u mean more sfs's? im sort of stopped on that more of mazieres' sfs -:- smoke [smoke@14dyn116.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes when theres more on m's sfs it should be at either the watch url or dm's hp hi! pyro: u could email dm hehe, they have some pretty shitty bands at this show this weekend the "i'm watching..." band, eddie money, screaming cheetah weelies 'course I dunno who else would play for $5 combined :) oooh get ready to crack the new music "security system" hqahahaha what a joke hmm it's called SDMI, maybe we can find the specs :) 04:20pm heh they put your credit card # in the file, and probably use it as a key to decrypt it >>> pyro [tcn@cci-209150250083.clarityconnect.net] requested PING 932772690 770699 from #tunes heh, just use a "disk capture" soundcard driver ain't nothin the record companies can do to stop it -:- liar [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes 04:30pm hmm tunes is registered on dalnet hey brand hey tom liar: so, who uses dalnet anyway? uhh, what is it? well i gotta download and install every stinkin version of bochs to find one that the debugger works in liar, you heard about this dumbass 'secure digital music' thing? pyro: from M$ ? record companies think they can stop piracy hum no, M$ has convinced them that they can stop piracy if everyone will use their format damn, in an hour I could undo what it took them 2 years to do M$ designed the format? pyro: ya and it only works in media player hahah if they want to sell anything, they gotta support linux bo they want all the music in windows only format so u have to have windows to use it heh, just rm /dev/dsp and let it write to a file :) heh lessee what /. says secure digital music? so basically, the record industry spent millions developing this thing that won't save 'em a dime how does it work? s_r: it won't :) eating hmm this is possibly the best written code in the world what? kernel.c 04:40pm pyro: ever used an SGI computer?> not legally what? you hacked one? sure ummm dumbasses left the default accounts unpassworded, whaddaya expect from .gov? no I haven't used one on the console anyway if it's in C there's gotta be better code kernel.fo? kernel.teco -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES (Leaving) 04:50pm >>> pyro [tcn@cci-209150250083.clarityconnect.net] requested PING 932774481 54775 from #tunes dead * hcf/#tunes is away: (tEEvEE) yes, dead... dead _tired_ -:- SignOff smoke: #TUNES (zzz) i'm on /. 05:00pm oh i wish i hadn't given away my BeOS demo CD -:- SignOff eStormy: #TUNES (Ping timeout for eStormy[rain.futuresouth.com]) 05:10pm * Fare/#Tunes copes with 1 week of missed /. * pyro/#tunes is trying to find an article from last week TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! i have /. on my gnome panel, very nice applet i never have to goto /., it comes to me >>> pyro [tcn@cci-209150250083.clarityconnect.net] requested PING 932775967 984691 from #tunes here we go, finally somethign about MP3's Jupiter Communications released a report that recommends that the Music Industry exploit MP3's rather than fight them. 05:20pm haha "Aside from the fact that all the songs they release these days suck, I'd say the music industry has some tough days ahead." ok, I got a question yes? * Fare/#Tunes wrote about that on cybernethics@tunes.org -:- pickanick [amz@ct-055-3.ctonline.it] has joined #tunes there are 12 people here, make that 13.. how come 10 of them haven't said anything all day? :) that reminds me, I wanna subscribe to cybernetics ethics -:- pickanick [amz@ct-055-3.ctonline.it] has left #tunes [] pyro: do it from the web interface... yup is os-ideas alive? * Fare/#Tunes just received a SUBSCRIBE notification message... pyro: undead, I'd say is there a priest to dispell it? 05:30pm hey, what did core commit.. xcom or clementine? both, I guess where?? -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us104.javanet.com]) what's up? 05:40pm -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us1000.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff s_r: #TUNES (Read error to s_r[phila-dialup087.nni.com]: No route to host) * Fare/#Tunes received rh's offer for the IPO, but cannot subscribe, not being US citizen redhat? redhat is meant for newbies who don't care how to configure linux. and if you try you're screwed sfs? well, sfs is a global decentralized secure fs at http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/papers/sfs:mazieres-ms.ps.gz (watch http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/, see also 'mazieres') or see 'sfs more' fare, have you look at that? not yet 3053 time... bye! -:- Fare is now known as Fare3053 see ya 06:10pm -:- s_r [s_r@phila-dialup107.nni.com] has joined #tunes hey! MP3s will ruin the music industry did u know I'm a member of the music industry? Tom Novelli, CEO right? 06:20pm hehe, i'm just an artist, fuck the record sharks cool you're a guitar hack? yeah i don't like recordings anyway can you play "stairway to heaven"? :) hahahaha if I knew it I'm sure I could :) recording is a pain in the ass, and live music sounds better i'm going to play Final Fight 2 until my eyes are sore!! snes emulation is great haha say, you know where I can get the Zelda games for tha? hmmm i just search on lycos most are dead links but usually you find a good page of roms seriously, i should code a game in asm for Retro like Zelda :) maybe toogam's page would point me in the right direction if I remember he's a big zelda fan there are so many more games for SNES than N64, and a lower percentage of shoot-em-up's -:- SignOff s_r: #TUNES (Ping timeout for s_r[phila-dialup107.nni.com]) 06:30pm -:- s_r [sr@phila-dialup283.nni.com] has joined #tunes yeah, toogam's a zelda fan toogam? one of tril's friends well zelda for retro would be nice i don't know how i would code it though 06:40pm hehe "it's legal to download these but you must delete them withing 24 hours" i wonder why Nintendo still cares about the old SNES yeah, I looked on their site I thought they were gonna give me rom images ;) haha i'm thinking of switching to BeOS "yeah, uh, those are free, the SNES is obsolete" ya see, there aren't many games for the N64 wait that was 2 years ago :) heh, I found the N8 games :) megaman, metroid, zelda 2, castlevania... hehe, wow.. i feel like a kid :) heh hehe.. looks like geocities is the place "GeoCities: your pirate headquarters" pyro: do pirate computer games too? computer games are more advanced than snes games used to snes games are good for a quick play but they can't compare to a good computer game I still play a few games that are (at least) as old as my old 486-33 (which was top o' the line when I got it) pyro: #warezoldies heh i hang out in that channel old games are cool 06:50pm wow, these roms are small :) pyro: get Final Fight 2 it's a neat game where? just /dcc me I wonder why zelda3 is 3x bigger than zelda4? * s_r/#tunes shoots his Cardinal 28.8MVPi modem with a magnum ohh Gauntlet that's pretty big, 1.25 mb what? I hope my other dl finishes quick :) don't worry I'm at 44k hmm computer games rock there are quite a few i want right now i just finished d/ling Dungeon Keeper 2 I ain't got much time for 'em when my OS reaches a state of semi-completion the first things i'll write for it is a game I already wrote a little 3d game for Retro a paper plane sim 07:00pm heh -:- supergirl [user1840@98CA2BAB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #Tunes mr.right! hello hello lier! oooops! better get outie here too! -:- supergirl [user1840@98CA2BAB.ipt.aol.com] has left #Tunes [] -:- SignOff pyro: #TUNES (Ping timeout for pyro[cci-209150250083.clarityconnect.net]) -:- pyro [tcn@cci-209150250102.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes oh yeah pyro: a 3d sim? cool can i see the code? 3d sim? 3d sim is in my head no it's in my head! no abi, the 3d sim is in my head okay, pyro. abi: no, 3d sim is in tcn's head okay, s_r. 07:10pm the 3d sim? somebody said the 3d sim was in tcn's head pyro: working on Retro? actually... I could get triangle & s-buffer code up & running in a day sr: what snes emulator do you use? haha this site says it's legal to keep rom images for 30 days, enough to play 'em :) 07:20pm zsnes s-buffer? is this all available via CVS? -:- SignOff pyro: #TUNES (Ping timeout for pyro[cci-209150250102.clarityconnect.net]) 07:30pm -:- SignOff s_r: #TUNES (Ping timeout for s_r[phila-dialup283.nni.com]) -:- s_r [sr@phila-dialup006.nni.com] has joined #tunes -:- pyro [tcn@cci-209150250126.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes hi bonjour, pyro 08:00pm -:- SignOff pyro: #TUNES (pyro has no reason) -:- SignOff s_r: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- iepos [magister@ns4.tecinfo.net] has joined #TUNES -:- SignOff iepos: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- liar [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes -:- liar has changed the topic on channel #Tunes to: Free Reflective Computing System || Geek Chicks || http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/07/18/stinwenws02029.html?999 -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp33.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes eihrul: u read that anti-linux-ipo howto? nope http://linuxtoday.com/stories/7964.html hold on, man... i just woke up; i haven't even read slashdot yet. itsfrom /. then i'm sure i'll see it :P 11:30pm -:- SignOff liar: #TUNES (Ping timeout for liar[p0wer.qzx.com]) [msg(TUNES)] newlog 1999.0724 IRC log ended Sat Jul 24 00:00:00 1999