IRC log started Thu Apr 8 00:00:01 1999 [msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0408 [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net break: sterling.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net junction: koontz.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from lu.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net break: koontz.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net junction: sterling.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from lu.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net break: sterling.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net junction: koontz.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from lu.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net break: koontz.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net junction: sterling.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from lu.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. 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[openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net break: koontz.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net junction: sterling.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from lu.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net lu.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. -:- Fare [rideau@quatramaran.ens.fr] has joined #Tunes [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net break: koontz.openprojects.net wang.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Net junction: koontz.openprojects.net wang.openprojects.net [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from wang.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net wang.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. 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[openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net hogan.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. -:- thara [uab@ailpc-16.uab.es] has joined #Tunes ola! ola que cosa fas? programo un sistema operativa reflectivo y te diiertes? diiertir? no hablo tan bien el espanol. dibertir, es que no funciona de donde res? estoy de Paris, Francia y tu? en barcelona , catalunya, espaņa estudias o trabajas? :) 08:40am tengo un amigo de barcelona, pero trabaja en Clermont-Ferrand. -:- thara [uab@ailpc-16.uab.es] has left #Tunes [] 08:50am -:- SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Tril[sloth.wcug.wwu.edu]) -:- Tril [dem@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu] has joined #TUNES -:- SignOff Fare: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Fare[quatramaran.ens.fr]) -:- Fare [rideau@quatramaran.ens.fr] has joined #Tunes -:- binEng [bineng@dialup152-2-11.swipnet.se] has joined #tunes -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us214.javanet.com] has joined #tunes anyone awake? I am :) hoy there, sup? nottin' special... 11:30am gakuk What does 'gakuk' mean? 11:40am [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: OperServ killed DarkdowN (You have been k-lined. To appeal, please email support@openprojects.net.) [openprojects]!clarke.openprojects.net services1.openprojects.net adding GLINE for *@129.210.190.*, expiring at 923701050: You have been k-lined. To appeal, please email support@openprojects.net. What does 'gakuk' mean? 12:10pm * Tril/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 20 hrs 22 min 6 secs hey freaks hoy Tril gakuk is a word fare made up for greeting people, that's what he told me hi hcf Tril: can u do something about the excessive svr msgs in the irc logs? grep :) :P seriously, is TUNES +s? hi -:- -s That channel doesn't exist -:- Mode change [-s] for user TUNES fare: are you there to confirm the meaning of gakuk? -:- Tril [dem@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu] has left #tunes [] -:- Tril [dem@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu] has joined #tunes 01:20pm * hcf/#tunes is away 08/04/99 16:33:01 EST : -:- Tril [dem@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu] has left #TUNES [] -:- Tril [dem@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu] has joined #TUNES -:- Tril [dem@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu] has left #TUNES [] -:- Tril [dem@sloth.wcug.wwu.edu] has joined #TUNES can't make up you'r mind, Tril? ;) -:- On JOIN from "TUNES #TUNES *" do umode -s [NORMAL] <0> ok, now it will work TUNES will umode -s itself every time it joins the channel (which should correspond to every time it joins the server) 01:30pm -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us214.javanet.com]) -:- SignOff binEng: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- binEng [bineng@dialup152-2-11.swipnet.se] has joined #tunes Last chance to tell me something intelligent tonight, folks! * Tril/#TUNES looks confused no, I mean _intelligent_ ;) 02:10pm -:- binEng [bineng@dialup152-2-11.swipnet.se] has left #tunes [] -:- Connection closed from clarke.openprojects.net: Success -:- Use /Server to connect to a server -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: For more information about BitchX type /about -:- Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES (from mccaffrey.openprojects.net) -:- Your host is mccaffrey.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) (from mccaffrey.openprojects.net) -:- This server was cobbled together Sun Mar 21 1999 at 15 49:47 EST(from mccaffrey.openprojects.net) -:- mccaffrey.openprojects.net u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) dioswkfcg biklmnopstv -:- [local users on irc(14)] 5% -:- [global users on irc(89)] 35% -:- [invisible users on irc(167)] 65% -:- [ircops on irc(11)] 4% -:- [total users on irc(256)] -:- [unknown connections(0)] -:- [total servers on irc(34)] (avg. 7 users per server) -:- [total channels created(69)] (avg. 3 users per channel) !mccaffrey.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 22 (21 clients) !mccaffrey.openprojects.net Welcome to Open Projects! You are on 1 ca 1(2) ft 14(14). -:- Mode change [+f] for user TUNES -:- Mode change [+iws] for user TUNES -:- JOIN activated by "TUNES #tunes tunes@bespin.cx " -:- TUNES [tunes@bespin.cx] has joined #tunes -:- Topic for #TUNES: Retro source released! See http://www.tunes.org -:- topic set by tcn [Tue Apr 6 05:21:27 1999] -:- [Users(#Tunes:4)] [ TUNES ] [ _QZ ] [ Tril ] [ Fare ] -:- Channel #Tunes was created at Sun Feb 28 08:48:06 1999 -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Join to #tunes was synced in 6.422 secs!! -:- Mode change [-s] for user TUNES * Tril/#TUNES is away: (afk) [BX-MsgLog Off] -:- billyboof [hatefull@nrwc-sh2-port215.snet.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff billyboof: #TUNES (hatefull@antisocial.com) -:- tcn [tcn@cci-209150250117.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes <_QZ> hello hey <_QZ> how goes retro? how goes brix? haha <_QZ> :) pretty good, almost got the Forth interpreter ready <_QZ> kewl so you're working on some interactive shell? <_QZ> well <_QZ> i havent actually done jackshit this week <_QZ> i did find out exactly why my object loader was failing <_QZ> i knew that the floppy wasnt ready when i tried to access it so i stuck in a floppy reset before each load <_QZ> that made it friggin slow <_QZ> butthen i found out that i was TURNING OFF THE FLOPPY after each read :) haha <_QZ> so now it works and its fast again You using int13? <_QZ> ya port I/O wasn't that bad, really <_QZ> i have a floppy driver that uses direct io After I get multitasking I'll redo it how come you don't use it? <_QZ> but int 13h is needed to load my setup/kernel and the floppy driver 08:30pm <_QZ> hmm <_QZ> i need a better page change notifier <_QZ> mind-it sucks <_QZ> it takes 2-3 days, after the page is changed, before i get a notice 08:40pm I'm finally writing a pagefault handler :) -:- SignOff Fare: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Fare[quatramaran.ens.fr]) -:- Fare [rideau@quatramaran.ens.fr] has joined #Tunes 08:50pm later -:- SignOff tcn: #TUNES (tcn has no reason) 09:00pm -:- tcn [tcn@cci-209150250081.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes hey QZ.. did old 486's have less than 32 address lines? <_QZ> uhh <_QZ> not the cpu <_QZ> the motherboard might have not used some lines to save money <_QZ> I'm finally writing a pagefault handler :) <_QZ> when did u get paging in retro? I did physical->linear mapping a few weeks ago.. started this today <_QZ> so u have paging working then? yeah, automatic allocation at pagefault time <_QZ> wait a minute, u dont even have multitasking yet multimultitasking & forth are next <_QZ> so u dont have paging completely working <_QZ> u dont have multiple page directories and dont change cr3 well, either it allocates a new page, if the kernel just needs more space, or it does an error dump. why, anything I should know about changing cr3 by task switching? <_QZ> no looks pretty easy <_QZ> but it makes paging hairier 09:40pm you've got all that right? <_QZ> i only do direct page mapping so its not that bad <_QZ> but its still hairy when going from user to kernel space <_QZ> the worst part is all these damn lists i have hehe dammit I thought I put umode -s in my .ircrc <_QZ> the code im doing now is between user and kernel space I'm getting rid of all my lists as we speak.. just gonna have CODE and DATA <_QZ> huh <_QZ> u need lists yeah, but I'm putting them in the same place all in DATA, along with .data and .bss sections from modules <_QZ> same place? <_QZ> stuff like thread lists <_QZ> lists of active threads hmm.. all this stuff I'm loading stays in RAM for now anyway 09:50pm <_QZ> ahh crap heh <_QZ> i have this stupid flag in each thread that tells the scheduler if it should map the iobitmap from the current osp or not <_QZ> but my io_free function will remove the iobitmap if an action calls it and the iobitmap is empty after the free i'm stuck rewriting my object list, etc.. <_QZ> so if the scheduler then changes to one of those other threads that used that iobitmap it will have to detect that there is no iobitmap and change flags <_QZ> slowing the scheduler down more :) <_QZ> what kinda objects? oh 10:00pm RDF modules, and things compiled by Forth, Scheme, etc.. and OS variables and crap I think I figured out a way to put RDF modules in a hierarchy <_QZ> meaning? RDF is a really crude format, but since I'm not using the 'library' directive, I could use it for giving "extra commands" to the linker <_QZ> eh? right now all objects are loaded in root:kernel all 300 of them s/300/30 anyways it's a mess <_QZ> 300 objects?? <_QZ> oops didnt see the 30 :) <_QZ> are those modules? those are the exact equivalent of 'global' variables & functions in C so any variable/routine used by another module gets to be an object 10:10pm it'll be better when Retro can compile its own programs <_QZ> damn i gotta crash see ya <_QZ> later -:- SignOff _QZ: #TUNES (BRiX [http://www.qzx.com/brix] :: sleep) -:- SignOff tcn: #TUNES (tcn has no reason) 10:20pm !koontz.openprojects.net!! Remote CONNECT vinge.openprojects.net 8005 from lilo [msg(TUNES)] newlog 1999.0409 IRC log ended Fri Apr 9 00:00:00 1999